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Jesus never existed, say atheists. Nor did Churchill, say Brits

10 February 2008
In some parts of the Internet you can find lots of militant atheists, determined to convince anyone who will listen that Jesus never existed.
“Prove it,” they say.
Well, how do you prove that Winston Churchill existed?
clipped from www.mg.co.za

Britons are losing their grip on reality, according to a poll that came out on Monday, which showed that nearly a quarter think Winston Churchill was a myth while the majority reckon Sherlock Holmes was real.
The survey found that 47% thought the 12th century English king, Richard the Lionheart, was a myth.
And 23% thought World War II prime minister Churchill was made up. The same percentage thought Crimean War nurse Florence Nightingale did not actually exist.

Meanwhile, 58% thought Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s fictional detective Holmes actually existed; 33% thought the same of WE Johns’s fictional pilot and adventurer Biggles.
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Hat-tip to Skyldings in the mead hall.

9 Comments leave one →
  1. 10 February 2008 9:01 pm

    This blog doesn’t exist. It’s a figment of my imagination. I’m going back to the real world. To have a cigar with Churchill…

  2. 11 February 2008 3:28 am

    Roger,

    You don’t exist. I infer your existence from patterns in glowing pixels on my computer screen, but who’s to know the whole thing isn’t just an elaborate joke?

  3. 7 September 2009 1:30 am

    “Well, how do you prove that Winston Churchill existed?”

    Because we have well documented, verifiable evidence supporting his existence; where was Jesus does not.

    Simple really isn’t it!

  4. Sally permalink
    10 January 2010 2:58 pm

    Not believing in “Jesus” makes you an atheist? Pfft! You’re kidding, right?! “Jesus” is not “GOD”. Just because you don’t buy the “Jesus” crap does it mean that you don’t believe in a Creator. ALL the first Presidents were DEISTS, not ATHEISTS. And, most of them were AGAINST CHRISTIANITY.

    • 10 January 2010 4:20 pm

      All the first Presidents of what?

      I don’t know whether you are a deist or an atheist, but you sure look like a chauvinist to me.

  5. 14 April 2010 3:01 pm

    Hmm…interesting…i’ve been in a long discussion

    about the existence of Jesus (in Swedish, put it in Google Translate if you wish), with some people who are convinced that the disciplinary consensus among scholars, concerning the historicity of Jesus, is all due to their Christian faith bias or not wanting to lose their income/salary. All of their life work depending on the fact that there was a historical Jesus (maybe not with any miracles, but that same Jewish guy, with that name, executed by Pontius Pilate, said to have risen from the dead)

    Ok. But the problem with this reasoning is that it is unfalsifiable. And it goes for all kinds of institutions and workplaces out there. How does one ever prove that one doesn’t conspire and lie, for the sake of keeping ones employment?

    + that angry antitheists (who express that they really don’t like religion) are also, as it seems, very very eager to interpret every text from ancient times, mentioning the name Christ or Jesus, as false. Looks like bias to me.

    The only way to have a discussion on this, is to admit the argument from best explanation (historicity theory vs a myth theory), instead of trying to prove a document being real, to a person who has already decided it is false. Because that is as hard as trying to prove a document is false to a person who has already decided it is real. And also one has to be sure of ones own knowledge before dismissing the quality of a disciplinary consensus.

    • 15 April 2010 10:20 am

      One scholar, John Allegro, wrote a book on his thesis that Jesus was actually a psychedelic mushroom. I don’t think he lost tenure because of it.

  6. 16 April 2010 1:51 pm

    haha, what a theory, there you go

    And besides, these people normally always asks proponents of anything, to refer to proper peer-reviewed articles in higly ranked scientific/scholarly magazines. Somehow i’m not so sure there are any Jesus-myth-articles yet, in these highly ranked scholarly magazines.

  7. greg permalink
    30 September 2010 2:05 pm

    Churchill – plenty of evidence.

    Jesus – no evidence at all.

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